08/10/20 Mon. Any Valid Protests? NY Times vs Pro-Trump Christians
The Hake Report, Monday, August 10, 2020, Hour 1: Are there any valid protests around the world? The riots and looting in the USA (such as Chicago) aren’t! James vs. Earl on Michael Brown Ferguson incident. Pierre from NH makes an interesting point about protestors not reading “legalese.”
Hour 2: James breaks down NY Times article: 'Christianity Will Have Power' about President Trump and so-called “evangelical Christians,” by Elizabeth J Dias, who repeats false smears against Donald Trump, and apparently found no real Christian who loves the President’s character. A 60-year-old man from Peru says he caught covid, and talks about reality vs the media narrative. The news media are hyping virus fears at schools; we should be wise and careful, but not overly trusting of these people! BGTG gets in last!
SEE CLIP: NY Times Does Not Understand Christianity (or Trump) - 28 mins.
CALLERS
Earl from Michigan challenges James on his accounts of the death of Michael Brown.
Defective Drone from North Carolina touches on the unrest in Chicago last night.
Pierre from New Hampshire speaks on BLM rioters.
Bill from Peru, South America says he has COVID-19 and that he tried hydroxychloroquine.
BGTG from Los Angeles, CA makes the point how old ladies are bagging up groceries while the rest of the population is made to stay home hiding.
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Protests and riots around the world
(TheSkimm) In Lebanon, over the weekend, thousands of people took to the streets of Beirut, enraged after last week's deadly blast killed 154 people and left hundreds of thousands homeless. Possible negligence; several lawmakers have resigned. Lebanon PM cancelling early elections. The country was already reeling from an economic crisis.
Lebanon government on brink over blast fallout… Is France helping, or trying to reconquer?
Also riots in Bolivia (delayed election; Covid’s the excuse) (TheSkimm) Tens of thousands of demonstrators blocked main roads to protest the country's delayed general election and its response to the coronavirus pandemic – which has killed over 3,000 people there. These protests seem reminiscent of last year's contentious election when officials went dark on sharing results for about 24 hours. Now, protesters apparently want the election to go ahead and demand a "stable" government.
And riots in Belarus (suspected election and polling corruption). (TheSkimm) Yesterday, protests erupted after exit polls showed the longtime incumbent president winning nearly 80% of the vote. His opponent entered the race after her husband (a popular blogger) was jailed and prevented from running. She received less than 7% of the vote. Now, protesters want the president – nicknamed "Europe's last dictator" – out and are calling the results rigged. The demonstrations turned violent as police used rubber bullets and water cannons to disperse crowds. One person was reportedly killed in the protests, at least 100 people were arrested, and dozens of others were injured.
Drudge headlines on Chicago:
I told you about riots in Chicago in Hake News, end of Hour 1, today. I guess it’s continuing!
Chicago Raises Bridges After Unrest, Looting Batter Downtown...
Mayhem after police shooting...
100 arrests, 13 officers hurt...
Riot Declared In Portland For Second Night In Row…
NY Times vs. Christian Trump
(NY Times and Twitter) ‘Christianity Will Have Power’: A Pledge Bonding Trump to Evangelicals: Donald Trump made a promise to white evangelical Christians, whose support can seem mystifying to the outside observer. It’s an article by @ElizabethJDias
(NY Times) At the same speech in which he said he could stand in the middle of Fifth Ave and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose voters, he spoke at Dordt University in Sioux Center, IA: “I will tell you, Christianity is under tremendous siege, whether we want to talk about it or we don’t want to talk about it,” Mr. Trump said. “And yet we don’t exert the power that we should have.”
“Christianity will have power,” he said. “If I’m there, you’re going to have plenty of power, you don’t need anybody else. You’re going to have somebody representing you very, very well. Remember that.”
This woman is fake news:
Evangelicals for years have defined themselves as the values voters, people who prized the Bible and sexual morality — and loving your neighbor as yourself — above all.
Donald Trump was the opposite. He bragged about assaulting women. He got divorced, twice. He built a career off gambling. He cozied up to bigots. He rarely went to church. He refused to ask for forgiveness.
It is a contradiction that has held for four years. They stood by him when he shut out Muslim refugees. When he separated children from their parents at the border. When he issued brash insults over social media. When he uttered falsehoods as if they were true. When he was impeached.
GEEZ WHAT A PHONY WOMAN!
The people speak
One guy talked about the good old days: “You don’t lock the doors,” he said. “I never take the keys out of the car.”
His wife had been quiet, letting him do the talking. She did not go to Mr. Trump’s speech, and politics were not her thing; often the men around here were more vocal than their wives about supporting the president. Now she spoke up.
“The religious part is huge for us, as we see religious freedoms being taken away,” Ms. Driesen said. “If you don’t believe in homosexuality or something, you lose your business because of it. And that’s a core part of your faith. Whereas I see Trump as defending that. He’s actually made that executive order to put the Bibles back in the public schools. That is something very worrisome and dear to us, our religious freedom.”
She said: “It’s almost like it is a reverse intolerance. If you have somebody that’s maybe on the liberal side, they say that we are intolerant of them. But it is inverse intolerant if we can’t live out our faith.”
Changes
Another guy: When he was a child, he said, the public school students were almost entirely white, and now about half of the kindergartners are Hispanic. He noticed that many of the Latinos in town were Catholic, and that they worked or shopped on Sunday, which was traditionally a time of rest in Sioux Center.
“You can’t find a single white person to milk cows or do any of that stuff,” he said. “They know how to work hard. They don’t mind working those 12-hour shifts.”
“Is he a man of integrity? Absolutely not,” this father Mr. Schouten, age 36, said (WRONG!). “Does he stand up for some of our moral Christian values? Yes.”
The guys agreed. “I’m not going to say he’s a Christian, but he just doesn’t attack us,” his friend Jason Mulder said.
His wife: After the election of President Barack Obama, the country seemed to undergo a cultural shift, she said. “It was dangerous to voice your Christianity,” she said. “Because we were viewed as bigots, as racists — we were labeled as the haters and the ones who are causing all the derision and all of the problems in America. Blame it on the white believers.”
None of them said they had wanted to vote for Mr. Trump, but they did — “When he was the last option,” Heather Hoogendoorn said. The group laughed.
OK SO THESE ARE THE NICE FAKE CHRISTIANS BUT NOT SO FAKE THAT THEY COULDN’T VOTE TRUMP. I know people who play humble and modest, but they are secretly judgmental.
Obama
One lady: The years of the Obama presidency were confusing to her. She said she heard talk of giving freedoms to gay people and members of minority groups. But to her it felt like her freedoms were being taken away. And that she was turning into the minority.
“I do not love Trump. I think Trump is good for America as a country. I think Trump is going to restore our freedoms, where we spent eight years, if not more, with our freedoms slowly being taken away under the guise of giving freedoms to all,” she said. “Caucasian-Americans are becoming a minority. Rapidly.”
She explained what she meant. “If you are a hard-working Caucasian-American, your rights are being limited because you are seen as against all the races or against women,” she said. “Or there are people who think that because we have conservative values and we value the family and I value submitting to my husband, I must be against women’s rights.”
Her voice grew strong. “I would say it takes a stronger woman to submit to a man than to want to rule over him. And I would argue that point to the death,” she said.
She felt freer as she spoke. “Mike Pence is a wonderful gentleman,” she said. “This is probably a very bad analogy, but I’d say he is like the very supportive, submissive wife to Trump. He does the hard work, and the husband gets the glory.”
She turned to her husband. “Let’s be real, Micah, do you have any clue what goes on in our children’s lives on a daily basis? No.” They laughed.
“Pence you can picture as your father, as your dad,” he said.
Hispanics
One guy: All he really remembered was thinking that Mr. Trump sounded like Hugo Chávez, the former Venezuelan strongman.
Twenty years ago, less than 3 percent of Sioux County was Hispanic. Now, that figure has nearly quadrupled, largely as the pork and dairy industries have relied on Hispanic workers.
Most Hispanic migrants who come to the area are Catholic, but many convert to evangelicalism, as he did, Mr. Alvarado said in his office at Nueva Esperanza Iglesia, or New Hope Church. They kept a low profile, especially the ones without the right papers. At first even he had trouble finding them. Mostly they seemed to stick to work, home and the grocery store.
“There’s fear in the people,” he said. “The fear, the fear of losing everything —” His unfinished sentence hung in the air. The lights in the main fellowship hall were off.
Mr. Alvarado, 64, remembered how he ran away from home in Mexico when he was 13.
The phony Hispanic view of Trump
He appreciated that Mr. Trump defended Christians. But he had another conviction: “We should welcome foreigners, immigrants.”
“Doing things like dividing the family, I don’t think that is very Christian,” he said (WHAT A SUCKER). “And building walls, instead of helping people with medicine, food, especially old people getting sick for not having enough income.” SMH.
He does not talk about Mr. Trump with the white Christians around him.
“Maybe they know, that they realize that he is kind of persecuting Hispanics, so they won’t talk very much about that in front of me. I won’t, the same thing, I won’t tell them my opinion,” he said.
He grew quiet when he thought of why he believed that the white evangelical community around him supported Mr. Trump. Then he spoke as if it were obvious.
“They’re not Hispanic,” he said. “They have not been living what we have been going through.”
“They have to make their own decisions. I understand their point of view,” he went on. “For them, the benefit is that he is pro-Christian. Which is one of the things I like about him.”
Dumb BLM crap
In Sioux Center, where the Black population is less than 1 percent, feelings about Mr. Trump remain largely unchanged.
Ms. Schouten remembered a song she taught her children, called “Jesus Loves the Little Children.” She quoted the lyrics, which have been sung in churches for generations but would be considered racially insensitive today: “Red and yellow, black and white, all are precious in his sight.”
“We are making this huge issue of white versus Black, Black Lives Matter. All lives matter,” she said. “There are more deaths from abortion than there are from corona, but we are not fighting that battle.”
“We are picking and choosing who matters and who doesn’t,” she said. “They say they are being picked on, when we are all being picked on in one shape or form.”
The Trump era has revealed the complete fusion of evangelical Christianity and conservative politics, even as white evangelical Christianity continues to decline as a share of the national population. There are some signs of fraying at the edges of the coalition, among some women and young people. If even a small fraction turns away from Mr. Trump, it could make the difference to his re-election.
OH THIS NY TIMES WRITER HOPES SO, HUH?
The ‘photo op’ as MSM called it
This woman wrote about the chapel in Washington, where armed officers tear-gassed (FAKE NEWS) peaceful protesters (ALSO FAKE NEWS) in Lafayette Square and ALLEGEDLY shot them with rubber pellets. They were clearing the way for Mr. Trump to march from the White House to St. John’s Episcopal Church and hold up a Bible, a declaration of Christian power.
“We have the greatest country in the world,” he said. “We’re going to keep it nice and safe.”
It was another instantly infamous moment (FOR ANTI-CHRISTIAN PRO BLM IDIOTS), covered by cable news and decried by Democrats as an unseemly photo op. But in Sioux Center, many evangelicals once again received a different message, one that echoed the words uttered by a long-shot presidential candidate in a sanctuary on a cold winter morning.
“To me it was like, that’s great. Trump is recognizing the Bible, we are one nation under God,” Mr. Schouten said. “He is willing to stand out there and take a picture of it for the country to see.”
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Thanks, all!
He added: “Trump was standing up for Christianity.”