BLM: More Good or Harm? @ModernDayDebate: @TheHakeReport vs @BrentonLengel
Took place Wednesday, August 25, 2021, at 6 PM U.S. Pacific Time (8 CT / 9 ET) — Watch Live on Modern-Day Debate YouTube channel.
This was fun!
UPDATE: See also Hake’s follow-up interview with Brenton, scheduled for Wednesday, October 6, 2021, about 9:10 AM PT (12:10 PM ET).
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About Brent Lengel, the other guest
Hake’s opponent for this discussion, Brent Lengel (pronounced LANG-gull), previously appeared on Modern-Day Debate (time stamp: 2:28:05) discussing the same question: Has BLM done more harm than good?
Hake happened across this live stream Saturday, May 29, 2021, and sent in a slew of “Super Chats” disputing Brent’s claims about Breonna Taylor and Black Lives Matter.
Brenton Lengel, on Twitter (@BrentonLengel), appears to be a BLM-supporting, Occupy Wall Street type — a white male (I think) Buddhist. See his channel. Brent describes himself as a playwright, anarchist, and award-winning comic creator who debates and streams as a hobby. He’s appeared many times on Modern-Day Debate.
BTW: Another YouTuber whose channel is called Actual Justice Warrior also covered Brent’s May debate, after Brent dismissed him as a “Nazi,” for which he apologized later. AJW shouts out Hake for bringing the facts! Follow AJW (real name Sean Fitzgerald) on Twitter (@IamSean90).
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My argument: Ways BLM does harm
The phrase itself spreads ill will
Promoting anger (the biggest lie)
Increasing crime
Smearing the innocent
Discouraging self-reflection
Stoking radicalism (all sides)
Good: Glad to see evil
1 - BLM is a hypocritical insult
The last thing anyone needs is to feel sorry for black “victims,” or to encourage blacks to be into their blackness. Sympathy and empathy, and special attention is a big part of what’s gone wrong for blacks in America. We need to think more like men and less like women in America.
Neither the organization nor the idea of “Black Lives Matter” has a place in America.
BAD FROM THE START
Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown’s self-defense killings resulted in exoneration for George Zimmerman, and no charges for former Officer Darren Wilson…. At this, three “ladies” were pouting on Facebook: Opal Tometi, Alicia Garza, and Patrisse Cullors (who hung up on JLP in an interview and lied to me about it when I was producer in Dec 2014).
I believe Patrisse in a rage posted: #blacklivesmatter — which is a nasty backhanded accusation meant to spread ill will, as if the rest of America doesn’t know that innocent lives should not be taken.
If anyone needs to be told to value life and love others, it’s the criminals themselves (and their post-mortem allies). Trayvon, Mike Brown, and so many others act recklessly and belligerently, almost with a death wish, no will to live, nor regard for others. “I don’t wanna go to jail,” some of them selfishly and shortsightedly reason. So they pick hell instead.
But the “hashtag” took off online because young people and brainwashed blacks and liberals/commies are shallow and petty. These people racially profile nonblacks (they don’t even have to be white), treating them with suspicion and assuming them guilty despite all exculpatory evidence. They also hate all authorities (including black cops, their mothers, their fathers if they know them, and God himself).
Now BLM is the establishment of the religion of the “hate crime” hoax. Blacks are now pressured to lie, and call stuff “racist” that’s not. Racism doesn’t even exist. Ordinary liberals who believe it does exist — they experience blacks as the most “racist” people they’ve encountered. Because blacks are perpetrators, aggressors, and complainers who turn around and play “victim.” It’s good vs. evil, not racism vs. anti-racism.
2 - Worse than the KKK
H/T JLP, spiritual expert: BLM encourages blacks to hate. Therefore BLM is worse than the KKK. Killing the soul is worse than killing the body. (Even Brent the Buddhist would have to agree! Anger and slander are not “lovingkindness.”)
Even intellectuals have written (such as in Slate) that mental illness does not cause mass shootings: Anger does.
3 - The Ferguson Effect
H/T journalist Heather Mac Donald: The Ferguson Effect: Homicides spiked thanks to the pandering to BLM, as police have been discouraged (and hands tied) from doing their jobs, and criminals emboldened and freed to wreak chaos.
Woe to those who call good evil and evil good: Dems, RINOs, Soros-type prosecutors who are selective on the criminal laws they enforce—the backwards female-minded world: look at establishment melodrama and selective prosecutions over Jan 6 vs summer ‘20.
4 - False accusations
False accusations: They’re doing to cops and “whites” what they claim was done to them: declaring them guilty without any evidence! Not one major case has been legitimate (Trayvon, Mike Brown… not even George Floyd), and not one case an example of this “racism” they project on others. BLM like #MeToo has further corrupted the culture with this “guilty in the court of public opinion” crap. The public is no “court,” and should have no opinion! Where is the spirit of “wait and see,” of “innocent unless proven guilty”? This is corrupting the culture, and breeding discord where we should be united against evil. Divide and conquer: COMMUNISM.
5 - Blame others
H/T Jordan B. Peterson (and JLP, and the Bible)… a culture of blind recriminations… “first take the plank out of your own eye, then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” BLM was founded by a bunch of fat, black, radical LESBIANS. It's like they’re trying to convince themselves their lives matter, yet everyone can see they’re throwing their lives away by not taking care of their own health, wallowing openly and unrepentantly in their shameful perversions, encouraging others to do the same, and destroying their own lives, families, and communities. Clean your own home before you come blindly criticizing cops and whites and America.
BTW: Blacks owe us reparations for the communities they’ve destroyed over the decades, the criminals these women have raised, and the corruption and incompetence of their ever-worsening phony leadership that they put in place (in collusion with dishonest fellow whites).
6 - Victim-terrorists
BLM (along with establishment allies) is radicalizing blacks and whites:
Multiple cases of unprovoked assassinations of innocent police by dumb black radicals in the name of these false black victims: NYC two cops murdered in the name of Mike Brown and Eric Garner, Baton Rouge several cops murdered after Alton Sterling got himself killed, Dallas several killed within weeks of Baton Rouge (one “inspired” the other).
BLM, along with mainstream media, along with broken / non-existent families now prevalent in society (a lack of father and families is encouraged by the corrupt cultural establishment), and a few fellow openly angry white people (which is rare—often those are feds), has radicalized whites like former libertarian Christopher Cantwell (see the Charlottesville documentary by Vice: he points to the Trayvon drama) and worse, mass murderer Dylann Storm Roof.
You have BLM and BLM’s false-narrative-supporting mainstream media to thank, in part, for Dylann Roof’s murder of several black churchgoers.
(Yes, he’s responsible for his own actions, but… per his own “manifesto,” he saw media hyping white “racism,” yet black-on-white crime is much more prevalent than the reverse; the media propaganda did its job: they created the boogie man that it imagined existed; talk about satanic!).
It’s not white male free speech online, not the Confederate flag, but the MSM’s brazen denial, deceit, and delusion that is stoking anger, hate, “extremism” and murder.
7 - EVIL EXPOSED is good
One good thing: By being brazenly pure evil, BLM has exposed evil, and shown how easily fooled and morally weak many of the American people, political, academic and media establishment, and corporate world are. Commies and immoral capitalists are all the same: evil liars. It has also shown the weakness of the whites and other sensible people in being unable to speak out strongly against this utter nonsense, and shut these people down. There is zero validity to BLM. Although it’s disappointing to see how weak America is to these lies, I’m grateful for the wake-up call.
It’s a symptom (or rather sign) of evil in the hearts of BLM supporters, more than the root cause of the evil. But it has resulted in more evil: when you’re spiritually blind, you do things that make your life and community worse — and that’s what these silly women, “LGBTIQ” lost people, and dumb liberals (including the communists) are doing.
Some reference information (from memory)
Blacks are two or three times as likely per capita to be killed by police. But I hear that when you account for their run-ins with police, they’re about the same or less likely to be killed by police.
Blacks are also multiple times as frequently as non-blacks commit violent crimes and criminal victimizations, even from childhood. Blacks are more likely to commit interracial violence — black-on-white crime is much more frequent, even in raw numbers, than white-on-black.
Blacks in SF, CA, were 8-9-times as frequently resisting arrest, more than others. This leads to potentially volatile situations with police.
I believe Heather Mac Donald has cited a Philadelphia study that found white police officers are less likely than black or Hispanic police to shoot an unarmed black suspect errantly. (This could be due to competence or just wariness of the accusations against white cops.)
Blacks are four times as likely to be cop killers than other races. Blacks were 40% of cop killers in the span of a decade, yet only 13% of the population.
Common sense: cops are more “racist” because they actually have to deal with some of the worst of the blacks’ crap. (The other people who get the worst? Black kids who grow up in a world of anger and excuses.)
Questions/comments for Brent Lengel
Nazi slur
Responsibility for thee, but not for me
About Brent/Occupy
Police/Slavery
Facts and truth: Accusing others of being what you are
A - Nazi slur
(Note: the word “Nazi,” similar to imaginary word “racist” or the boogie man “fascist” [which is used to justify attacking Trump supporters and anyone who believes in freedom of speech] — they’re all used as slurs worse than the so-called “N-word” — to smear and scapegoat innocent white people and anyone else decent and free. It should be banned in the media. The evil female spirit mislabels everything, with a false imitation of truth.)
B - "N-words" too?
How is it being a “Nazi” (the anti-white “N-word”) to repeat a caricature stereotypical description of black criminals who get caught by cops and end up with possession charges? Are ign’ant blacks similar “N-words” for doing the same to whites and cops? Are you a Nazi Commie for flippantly butchering the Freddie Gray and Breonna Taylor stories to make reasonable police action seem ridiculous?
C - About Brent and Occupy
Were you raised Christian? Why Buddhism? Does your wife respect you? Why were you an Occupy Wall Street person? (During their heyday, I told my liberal friend that the Tea Party was made of mostly decent people, whereas the Occupy people were not decent. This proved true with even so-called Christians I knew who supported Occupy. He told me that’s “inflammatory.”) You’re a nice guy when you’re not lying and smearing whites and Americans.
D - Slavery and cops are fine
Do you actually think it was wrong or “racist” to have “slave patrols”?? (Brent has said police originated as slave patrols in America, and somehow that’s not legitimate.) What type of weak society would let their slaves escape without retrieving them? Ridiculous. BTW: slavery wasn’t “racist.” It’s not our fault the whites were not for sale. What’s wrong with the blacks that they were? Slavery is nothing to be ashamed of nor sorry for — neither for slave master nor slave, nor the descendants or beneficiaries of either.
Blacks have benefited more from slavery in America than anyone—and still get ill-gotten gain from it to this day! Blacks milk “slavery” more than many Jewish people do (whom most blacks hate) with the Holocaust! And American slave masters were often good and decent masters, honorable men, unlike today’s Democrats and “anti-racists” and RINOs.
E - 'Projection': Accusing others of what you do
You play it fast and loose with the facts, and don’t care about the truth. Yet you call AJW a propagandist! Lol, and he cites all his info and from the little I’ve seen tries to be fair, even to you! What the!
Fake BLM victims
Trayvon Martin - attacked GZ. His messed up “family” was thought to get more than $1M settlement in a fake wrongful death suit.
Mike Brown - attacked Darren Wilson. His messed up “family” got a $1.5M settlement from Ferguson!
Eric Garner - was fat and resisted arrest. His “family” received a $5.9M settlement from NYC. His daughter-activist was also unhealthy and died. Years later under phony political pressure Officer Daniel Pantaleo was fired.
Tamir Rice - pointed a realistic-looking gun, didn’t put his hands up. His “family” got a $6M settlement.
Walter Scott - ran from and fought the cop. He owed “child support” and may not have wanted to go to jail. His “family” got a $6.5M settlement.
Jordan Davis - he made his friends play loud music in their SUV, and got into an argument with a white male at a gas station who flipped. His evil mother campaigned for the DNC and Hillary Clinton as one of the “Mothers of the Movement.”
Philando Castile - had a strong smell of pot with a little kid and his nasty girlfriend in the car, was handling his gun and it didn’t look right to the Filipino cop who shot him. At least one use of force expert said the shooting was justified. Philando’s ghetto mother Valerie Castile called for rioting and a hit on cops, smearing Alabama as “Crackabama” in a cussing rant. His “family” got a $3M settlement.
Ahmaud Arbory - a black “jogger” who was killed apparently in self-defense, although he was rightly or wrongly chased in a citizen’s arrest gone wrong. He had prior aggressive run-ins with police and an alleged attempted theft of a TV at a Walmart. He’d been looking around inside a house that was under construction, got chased and headed off by trucks, and attacked a guy who was holding a shotgun, grabbing at the gun and hitting the guy. Unwise! His evil mother filed a multimillion dollar lawsuit in February 2021.
Breonna Taylor - ex-girlfriend of a drug dealer, suspected of continuing to help him in his criminal enterprise. Her current boyfriend was sleeping with her in her apartment unmarried, and he too was no angel. He shot at cops who knocked and announced, but allegedly first said she shot at cops. Her body was in the hallway; she was not shot while sleeping. Her “family” got at least $12M.
George Floyd - high on drugs, in the driver seat of a vehicle (possibly with his drug dealer), having allegedly tried to pass a fake $20 twice, got the cops called on him, acted panicky and pathetic, and resisted arrest for several minutes, was put in the police SUV but even that was too claustrophobic for him, so he begged to be put on the ground and then said he couldn’t breathe right away. He’d overdosed before, and was calling for his dead mama or his white girlfriend whom he also called mama. A summer of BLM insurrection took place in his name. His “family” got what, $27M? Insane!
NOTE: Not one clear example of “racism”!
Recommended Sources
Colin Flaherty - on Twitter and videos on Minds.com - ColinFlaherty.com - Books:
White Girl Bleed a Lot
Don’t Make the Black Kids Angry
Knockout Game a Lie? Awww… Hell No!
Jared Taylor - American Renaissance - AmRen.com
Multi-edition publication: The Color of Crime
Videos on BitChute
John R Lott, Jr, PhD - CrimeResearch.org
Author of multiple books debunking “gun crime” propaganda and other liberal insanity
Debunked Obama/Holder DOJ Ferguson Report in NY Post article: Ferguson fake-out: Justice Department’s bogus report
Heather Mac Donald - City Journal writer
Book: The War on Cops
She’s also debunked the #MeToo movement
Vincent James - DailyVeracity.com
formerly Red Elephants, banned everywhere
on Telegram - t.me/RealVincentJames
Brandon Tatum - ex-cop
was all over the Breonna Taylor case.
There are many others, including Bill Whittle, who did an old Truth Revolt video, I believe it was, on the disparities in interracial violent crime. You can check FBI, DOJ, BJS, OJJDP statistics if you know what to look for and how to understand them.
Also see: Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams, who bring clarity on the black community, family, and history.
There are multiple “hate crime hoax” websites, including a Reddit page if it’s still up.
Over the years, I created and updated a very extensive, messy, redundant, partly obsolete document on Black Crime (and other statistics) — this is a Google Doc.
Definitely check out Jesse Lee Peterson, and his book The Antidote: Healing America from the Poison of Hate, Blame and Victimhood. https://jesseleepeterson.com and https://rebuildingtheman.com/stores
About me (Hake) and my work
The Hake Report streams on Jesse Lee Peterson’s network, live Monday through Friday, 9-11 AM U.S. Pacific Time, right after Jesse’s daily radio show.
I also read Hake News on Jesse’s show, and appear as one of his experts, along with producer Nick, audio engineer Chris, and front desk man Daniel. In our expert panel discussions, we’ve brought light to women’s issues, biblical truths, and many other things.
(JLP is an author, pastor, activist, and host of The Fallen State as well as The Jesse Lee Peterson Show, which I produced from 2013-2019.)
Thank you to JLP for the use of his studio and opportunity to host my show on his network. Thanks to Nick “the anchor baby” (Nicolas Gonzalez) for manning the board for me. Thanks to Modern-Day Debate for this opportunity, and to Brent Lengel for the discussion tonight.
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Thanks, all!